Good afternoon all - from the weekly 'List of valid planning applications received between 07.07.25 - 13.07.25' that I have received this morning I have seen several planning applications for approval of details for several condition attached to planning permission HGY/2019/1183. Following queries from some of you I have enquired in June about the orginal application being elapsed and I have not received a response yet. I am not clear how all these conditions have been validated and will ask for additional information, but if residemts would like to take a look and comment teh link is here. I will also ask for an extention to 21 days from today.
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All , please note a new planning application for the site with a deadline for comments 22/08/2025 that was mentioned in a different posts: https://alexandraparkneighbours.org.uk/forum/new-planning-applicati...
There was a rushed demoliton of part of the factory in early November 2023 which I suspect means that they have 'broken ground' on the terms of the planning permission. Let us know what you find out in additon.
Hello Birgitte, yes you are right. This below is the response I have received from officers who have confimed the validity of the condition approval. Below is the full answer, as I have received the response on the 24th I am waiting for formal confimation that the new date for comments is the 14th August.
Re: Concern regarding abandoned development behind Crescent Road, N22
Ref: MEM/TM00
Planning Reference: HGY/2019/1183
Planning permission was approved on 30th October 2020 for demolition of the existing buildings and the redevelopment of the site to provide two 3 storey blocks fronting Crescent Mews, a part 1/part 2 storey block adjacent to Dagmar Road, and a 4 storey building to the rear comprising 30 homes, and associated works.
Once a planning permission has been granted, the developer has 3 years from the date of the planning consent to commence works in relation to the approved scheme. A number of conditions were imposed on the planning consent, including those requiring further information to be submitted by the applicant at certain future timeframes.
The applicant submitted several ‘pre-commencement’ conditions that were imposed on the planning consent, which were approved between the 18th and the 27th October 2023. In doing so, the developer was able to undertake demolition works on the site before the 30th October 2023, when the 3-year timeframe for commencing works would have lapsed. No further works were undertaken following demolition. However, once the developer commenced demolition of the existing buildings on the site, this constituted implementation of the development - even though no actual building works have taken place in association with the planning consent.
The commencement and implementation of a planning consent is a legal matter, grounded in relevant planning legislation and case law. In summary, the commencement and implementation of a development can be lawfully triggered by minimal physical works such as demolishing existing structures or digging trenches (as long as pre-commencement conditions have been formally discharged) if this takes place before the 3 years life span of the planning consent expires.
Once implementation has commenced, the developer can return to the site and continue the works at any time. In this case, the developer has demolished most of the existing buildings on the site and therefore development has commenced and has been lawfully implemented.
The developer has now submitted several further ‘approval of details’ applications to discharge conditions imposed on the planning consent relating to building materials, landscaping, sustainability measures etc. Once these conditions have been approved, including any other relevant conditions on the planning consent decision notice, the developer can continue to build in accordance with the approved scheme.
‘Approval of details’ applications are not usually subject to formal public consultation, though we would consult with specialist consultees, as they generally tend to relate to technical matters associated with the planning consent. Residents input/comments on developments is rather sought at the outset of when a planning application is submitted, so officers can consider it in their assessment before deciding whether to grant or recommend planning permission or not.
Given the above, I can advise you that the applicant was not required to submit another planning application for the approved development.
I can also confirm that, although there is no requirement to consult residents on ‘approval of details’ applications, we are happy to receive any comments residents might have on those applications within 3 weeks of the date of this email.
Many thanks for keeping us updated on these planning applications, Alessandra.