Hooray for humps

This eastern end of Alexandra Park Road definitely feels safer - and quieter - now the speed cushions are back. Shame there are only four sets between the deer park entrance and station, giving intrepid motorists time to speed up in between. But some hump better than none…

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  • It a recent reply to a resident in Albert Road, Haringey wrote: 'The use of average speeds recognises that some drivers will still travel above the design speed for the traffic scheme. If a 20mph zone scheme were to be designed to enforce a limit to which all drivers were compelled to adhere, then it would have to include such harsh and closely spaced measures as to be unfeasible.'

    Which sounds a bit like - 'we can't inconvenience motor traffic'.

    In this particular reply Haringey did not refer once to the noise and the excessive number of lorries (banned) commercial vehicles and cars that race up Albert Road all day. Even though the original correspondence was about the noise and anti-social nature of endless rat running. It just kept referring to how drivers will be drivers and will speed and well, so what?

    The pictures of cyclists on Haringey literature are superficial. Can you think of a single meter of segregated cycle infrastructure in Alexandra Palace? Or in Haringey for that matter?  And that pointless cycle lane in the Recreational Ground does not count. Would you let your child cycle unaccompanied to one of the schools in this area - Rhodes Ave, Bounds Green, Muswell Hill School?

  • It depends on the size of the vehicles using the road. On a bus route they are seriously unpleasant for anyone living nearby - the whole house is shaken once every ten minutes during bus operating hours. A pair of humps in the other part of Alexandra Park Road were mercifully removed during recent resurfacing. (Some were also removed a while ago in Palace Gates Road.) Presumably the narrow hump arrangement was intended to allow bus wheels to pass either side, but it never worked like that, they almost always just went straight over. Probably to avoid parked cars and negotiate the nearby traffic island. Even a bus going slowly creates a heavy vibration.

  • We have been trying to get Haringey to do something about the relentless rat running on the narrow section of Albert Road. Nothing, of course. Haringey have replied that to do anything would inconvenience motorists!
    • Given their commitment to increasing walking and cycling - promoted on their posters all around here - that's a response that surely should be challenged! 'Inconveniencing' motorists is part of the strategy for reducing car use (and with it congestion, pollution and accident risk). The alternative would be to 'inconvenience' pedestrians and cyclists by reducing/restricting their access and protection, which because of their more vulnerable position would increase their vulnerability and injury risk - a difficult position for Haringey to defend surely...

    • It a recent reply to a resident in Albert Road, Haringey wrote: 'The use of average speeds recognises that some drivers will still travel above the design speed for the traffic scheme. If a 20mph zone scheme were to be designed to enforce a limit to which all drivers were compelled to adhere, then it would have to include such harsh and closely spaced measures as to be unfeasible.'

      Which sounds a bit like - 'we can't inconvenience motor traffic'.

      In this particular reply Haringey did not refer once to the noise and the excessive number of lorries (banned) commercial vehicles and cars that race up Albert Road all day. Even though the original correspondence was about the noise and anti-social nature of endless rat running. It just kept referring to how drivers will be drivers and will speed and well, so what?

      The pictures of cyclists on Haringey literature are superficial. Can you think of a single meter of segregated cycle infrastructure in Alexandra Palace? Or in Haringey for that matter?  And that pointless cycle lane in the Recreational Ground does not count. Would you let your child cycle unaccompanied to one of the schools in this area - Rhodes Ave, Bounds Green, Muswell Hill School?

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