Traffic island on zebra crossing by Sunshine Garden Centre

Posted by Linda Chaplin on June 19, 2024 at 12:58pm in Community News, Info, Issues

The traffic island on the zebra crossing by the exit from the rec has not been reinstated after the road resurfacing; I feel that the road is too wide at this point for a single crossing. It seems dangerous to me, given the number of children that use the rec and come out of that gate. Does anyone have any further information or comments?

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Sarah Lane June 23, 2024 at 9:25pm

I totally agree - this is another bizarre decision. Not safe at all. People start walking out when one direction of cars have stopped and wait for the other side to see them.
Linda Chaplin June 22, 2024 at 12:10pm

Dear Alessandra,

thank you for your full reply to my query.

The council response rather misses the point and the lack of a pedestrian refuge makes the crossing now more dangerous for wheelchair uses and people with prams rather than less!

I wonder if there were ever any complaints from cyclists during the many years the refuge was in place...
Cllr Alessandra Rossetti June 22, 2024 at 8:49am

Hi Linda, there's been objections to the removal of the island when zebra crossing was introduced. This was the comment in the Haringey report that approved the measure:

9.2.7 Objection – Removal of central island on zebra crossing
‘We think there is a problem with the proposal to remove the central island of the zebra
crossing by 147 Durnsford Rd. For long periods of the day there is an almost stationary
traffic jam going towards Bounds Green Station all the way back to Rhodes Avenue.
Drivers going in the opposite direction cannot see whether pedestrians are trying to cross
as they are unsighted by stopped vehicles obscuring their view. The central island gives
drivers some opportunity to see pedestrians at this point. It also gives pedestrians a
chance to pause and look again. We think the central island should remain. Please would
you reassess this. There is another dangerous hazard here relating to the O.R. Tambo
Recreation Ground gate by this crossing. The gate is obscured by privet hedges and
directly in line with the crossing. Park goers sometimes walk straight out of the gate onto
the crossing giving drivers during quieter times when there is free flowing traffic almost
no time to understand their intention to cross. Please would you consult with the Parks
Department to move the position of this gate?’
9.2.8 Council Response
The proposal to raise the zebra crossing outside no 147 Durnsford Road includes the
removal of the narrow pedestrian refuge. The width of the refuge is approximately 1.2m
which is not wide enough to accommodate a wheelchair or pram. Unfortunately, the
carriageway width would not facilitate a wider refuge as this would then create a
dangerous pinch point for cyclists.
The comments regarding the location of the gate to Oliver Tambo Recreation Ground is
noted and will be passed to the Parks Service for its information/consideration.

The full report is available in : https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/documents/s140986/DAR%20-%20Pro...

The full analysis of comments is here: https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/documents/s140991/App%20D%20-%2...

Alessandra

https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/documents/s140986/DAR%20-%20Proposed%2020mph%20zone%20on%20Durn…

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