A heads up about the Crossrail 2 consultation which is now open for business. Full details on the web site at: http://crossrail2.co.uk/consultation/ but you might like to note there is a "roadshow event" at Alexandra Park station on 17th December from 12.00-20.00.
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If you missed the earlier 'roadshow event', there's another at Alexandra Palace station on Thursday 17th December, 12-8pm
This is very helpful:
Report from Chris Barker, Haringey Federation of Residents Associations
TfL held a consultation meeting about the proposed Crossrail 2 underground line on 12 October. There are two branches in Haringey. One would come to the surface at Tottenham Hale and then serve stations along the Lea Valley. The other, remaining underground, would serve a station at Seven Sisters and then run either via Turnpike Lane and Alexandra Palace or via Wood Green. This consultation only concerned Turnpike Lane, Alexandra Palace and Wood Green. There is to be a further session to consider Seven Sisters and Tottenham Hale. The timescale for the line is for construction during 2020s and to be open by 2030.
TfL have already ‘safeguarded’ the route. This means that owners of properties within about 100 metres of the proposed line will need to notify TfL of any changes they propose to make to their property. TfL concerns are mostly to do with proposals to excavate foundations etc for large developments and should not affect smaller changes. Prospective buyers of property would need to be informed that the property is within the safeguarded area. If there is any evidence of blight as a result there is a mechanism for compensation. People within the safeguarded area have already been informed.
TfL also have the power to compulsorily acquire property which they need to build the line. In most cases they will only require it during construction and then are obliged to restore it to its owner in its original condition. One site which is going to be used is in Ermine Road, South Tottenham, where they are storing material and digging a ventilation shaft. There might also be a need for a site in the West Green area if the Wood Green route is chosen (rather than Turnpike Lane and Alexandra Palace) but where this might be has not been decided. None of the sites mentioned appear to involve residential property.
We were shown the work needed around the three stations.
Turnpike Lane station would be expanded involving some changes to the bus station. It would also involve acquiring the shops on the corner of Westbury Avenue and Langham Road. It is also proposed to acquire the BHS store on the corner of the High Road and Whymark Avenue for the purpose of digging a ventilation shaft. Most of this site would be given back when the work is finished.
Alexandra Palace station would be underneath the present main line station with an expanded entrance using the small shops and restaurants immediately to the south of the present entrance. It is also proposed to use some of Avenue Gardens for storage. ‘Most of’ Avenue Gardens would be restored after construction is finished.
If the line serves Wood Green instead of Turnpike Lane and Alexandra Palace it is proposed to acquire the whole of the site bounded by the High Road, Buller Road, Redvers Road and Lordship Lane, including the cinema. Again most of it would be returned when work is finished.
It’s early days yet. There is plenty of opportunity for protests and changes.
Isn't Wood Green already quite a busy station? The station is tight inside and out, on a busy junction difficult to cross, to be avoided in rush hour.
Grant, was there a mention of any specific benefits that the addition of Crossrail 2 station would bring to Wood Green at the consultation meeting?
Thanks Tim. On the map I notice that Alexandra Palace station has been dropped and Crossrail 2 will go through a station at Wood Green instead. Of course this is still at consultation stage but it would be interesting to know the thinking behind that possible change.
My reading is that the consultation is asking whether the station should be at Wood Green rather than Turnpike Lane/Ally Pally. I expect the proposal for a single station at Wood Green is to explore whether one rather than two stations would speed up trains (fewer stops) and whether a stop at a 'town centre' destination would be preferable. I know some other residents attended the recent consultation event at the library where this was discussed - perhaps they can chip in here?
Hi Susie,
I attended a meeting in Wood Green Library on this a few weeks ago. At this stage they are looking at all 3 options and pros & cons for each. Possibly Wood Green is seen as an interesting option within the larger Wood Gren regeneration plans. But it is early days and important for them to meet and hear residents' views!
Thanks for keeping us updated, Tim. Yes, you can edit a post - click on the little pencil at top right when the post is displayed (click on its header to display it).
You're welcome - timely email from TfL prompted me. Thanks for the tip about editing.
That should of course be Alexandra Palace station ...(can you edit a post?).